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and most recently, john mccain in 2008 seemed to moffett on the leadership side before he even got to the debate by suggesting that the debate be postponed so they could stay in washington and work on the bailout project. that made him look unleaderly because he really could not do much about that personally anyway. but he did not also seem to be able to handle multiple problems at once. i think that will be important in this particular year. the two candidates have opposite problems. nobody doubts that obama can relate to the people. that he is likable. that he can balance or do the democratic party. what we are wondering is, where is the leader early part? there is a four year pattern where there is not as much change as we had hoped. and romney is known as a take charge, ceo leader. but the big challenge is showing his democratic and like the rest of us. >> democratic with these little "d." >> yes. especially after the comment he made. challenging for both. >> you can arm wrestle. you are closer to the mic, go ahead. >> one of the issues this year, the legion of fact checkers will
and most recently, john mccain in 2008 seemed to moffett on the leadership side before he even got to the debate by suggesting that the debate be postponed so they could stay in washington and work on the bailout project. that made him look unleaderly because he really could not do much about that personally anyway. but he did not also seem to be able to handle multiple problems at once. i think that will be important in this particular year. the two candidates have opposite problems. nobody...
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john mccain had to defend an economy falling all around him. but by the time we get here on thursday this week, it's going to matter and no one knows how. it's one of the reasons that i've been caught up in politics since i can remember because you really don't know how the
john mccain had to defend an economy falling all around him. but by the time we get here on thursday this week, it's going to matter and no one knows how. it's one of the reasons that i've been caught up in politics since i can remember because you really don't know how the
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bush and john mccain. he coached mitt romney during the primaries. >> the object is to capture the imagination of both the audience and the press to make sure your message gets covered. one way to do that is to have a clever line >> schieffer: no one could deliver a line like ronald reagan. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. (laughing) >> schieffer: with those words reagan turned concern that he had gotten old and doddy on its head. challenger walter mondale said later when i heard that, i knew i had lost. what would you consider successful debate? >> the things that matter the most to the voters, to hell with the candidates and to hell with the moderators and to hell with the handlers and to hell with the pundits, but the things that voters care the most about have been discussed and have been discussed in a way that they can now understand what the differences are. that's what these debates are really al
bush and john mccain. he coached mitt romney during the primaries. >> the object is to capture the imagination of both the audience and the press to make sure your message gets covered. one way to do that is to have a clever line >> schieffer: no one could deliver a line like ronald reagan. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. (laughing) >> schieffer: with those words...
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. >> reporter: like john mccain's invitation of an ohio plumber who questioned mr. obama's tax plan four years ago. >> in the third debate, john mccain repeatedly alluded to joe the plumber, and the allegation that barack obama #-r would share the wealth. >> reid: jamieson says that gave mccain a boost in the polls, but as mccain later learned, even a memorable debate moment carries a candidate only so far. the live tv audience for the first obama-romney debate is expected to be about 60 million people. that's roughly half the number expected to vote in the election. the combination of shrinking finances and rising crime is forcing drastic change on camden, new jersey, a small city just across the delaware from philadelphia. tony guida has the details of a reorganization plan that would take veteran cops off the beat permanently. >> reporter: if camden had its own postcards, the picture would look look a lot like this-- police responding to the scene of a crime. with just 77,000 residents and 1500 violent crimes and 48 murders this year alone, camden has been called
. >> reporter: like john mccain's invitation of an ohio plumber who questioned mr. obama's tax plan four years ago. >> in the third debate, john mccain repeatedly alluded to joe the plumber, and the allegation that barack obama #-r would share the wealth. >> reid: jamieson says that gave mccain a boost in the polls, but as mccain later learned, even a memorable debate moment carries a candidate only so far. the live tv audience for the first obama-romney debate is expected to...
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youeally know this turf because you worked for john mccain when he r ain barak a in 2008 and n in the primary season,ou worked for tt romney. let's assess the governor's weas debater first. strengths? >> wl, i think the governor is a very good messenger. he's a good orator, hecan deliver a speech. he's very good when he's on messand on offense. as you saw in the debates in flora ag when heot g offense, the governor was very effective. when he leans int a debate, he can be pretty fective. >> bill: allight. weness? >> weaknesses, whe he gets -- ke most every politician, when he gets defensive, that's when he mes mistakes. the $10,0 bet came when governorromney was being defensive abt his health care policynd instances where other debaters have been able to get him on the defense and when that happens, he tends to look b. bil all rht. you know that president oma is ing to try to do that. he's going to question his health care criticism, his flip flops on various issues. he's going to pre him from very specifics on your tax program and at you're goingo phase out as far as deductis are con
youeally know this turf because you worked for john mccain when he r ain barak a in 2008 and n in the primary season,ou worked for tt romney. let's assess the governor's weas debater first. strengths? >> wl, i think the governor is a very good messenger. he's a good orator, hecan deliver a speech. he's very good when he's on messand on offense. as you saw in the debates in flora ag when heot g offense, the governor was very effective. when he leans int a debate, he can be pretty fective....
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political debate o'donnell is my guest and prepared john mccain for hess debate with president obama four years ago and welcome to the show, good to have you here. [applause] >> what would you say mitt romney has to do more than anything else in order to go into that debate and come out the winner? >> at the top of the list has to be governor romney has to tie the poor economic conditions we find ourselves in right now to the failure of the president's policies. he's got to be able to litigate the case, make the case that the policies the president has put forward have caused the economy to continue to go down. because folks believe the economy's bad right now, but what they don't actually believe is that it's the president's fault. he is got to make that case in the debate with the president standing on the stage with him, that the president is the one to blame for the economy that we've got right now. >> mike: there's a little bit of delicacy going on. if he acts too much on the attack, it will look like he's showing disrespect to the president. if he doesn't go after him like you'
political debate o'donnell is my guest and prepared john mccain for hess debate with president obama four years ago and welcome to the show, good to have you here. [applause] >> what would you say mitt romney has to do more than anything else in order to go into that debate and come out the winner? >> at the top of the list has to be governor romney has to tie the poor economic conditions we find ourselves in right now to the failure of the president's policies. he's got to be able...
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mccain as president like looking at that chart is that a coincidence i'm going to drop a lot of this stuff time that you stimulate you have to destroy a job you have to take a job by the private sector and you create a government that absolutely has. it was you seen in there that was do you decide you're going to build if you decide you're going to build a lodge you somebody you're not taking out of that is because you guys are taking it out of i work or if i'm going to if i have to pay more in taxes i'm on a higher less workers if i'm a private sector sometimes you heard a teacher you were wal-mart worker. maybe. let's move along to romney's tax plans just as we suspected the romney campaign is employing the sketch strategy here was romney surrogate congressman phil gingrey explaining how romney is now changing his positions from the republican primary to look like a moderate in the general election appeal to moderate voters. the republican the conservative candidate in the primary is always going to lean right and come back to the center for the general the opposite of the democrat
mccain as president like looking at that chart is that a coincidence i'm going to drop a lot of this stuff time that you stimulate you have to destroy a job you have to take a job by the private sector and you create a government that absolutely has. it was you seen in there that was do you decide you're going to build if you decide you're going to build a lodge you somebody you're not taking out of that is because you guys are taking it out of i work or if i'm going to if i have to pay more in...
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senator john mccain who knows what it is like. my tie is crooked. thanks for telling me. i know how obama debated in 08. how much is he like that in 2012. three hours, jam packed. don't go away. ♪ growing up in a family that salutes the american flag every day fills up with national pride. i am grateful for the opportunity to serve. that's why i am proud to be an american. ♪ >> good morning, it is 7 minutes before the hour. 15 artist vying for a spot in the rock-n-roll hall of fame. ♪ ♪ going to put them down. >> is that every man's favorite band. that is the canadian band rush among the first time nominees. they are with donna somer. and the winner will be announced this year and inducted in april. if you are a presidential cand date doesn't win the election you can get a free ticket to leave the country and go down to the caribbean. all you need to do is enter jetblue's election contest. they are giving over 1,000 round trip flights. >> last night president obama and mitt romney went head-to-head in denver. what did you think of the last night's debate. >> by fa
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most recently, john mccain seemed to moffett on the leadership side before he even got to the debate by being willing to or suggesting the debate be canceled or postponed so they could stay in washington and work on the bailout project. that made him look and l unleaderly and did not seem to be able to handle multiple problems at once. for me, and i think this will be important this particular year, our candidates, office of problems. no one doubts obama can relate to the people, that he is likable and can balance or do the democratic party. what we're wondering is what is the leader of the park since we have a four-year pattern that did not make as much change as we had hoped. mitt romney of course is known as take charge ceo leader, but his big challenge will be showing he is democratic, and like the rest of us, -- >> democratic with little lead. >> he has to overcome that. challenging for both. >> you can arm wrestle. you are closer to the microphone. >> i think one of the issues this year because it was one of the few growth industries in the united states, the legion of fact che
most recently, john mccain seemed to moffett on the leadership side before he even got to the debate by being willing to or suggesting the debate be canceled or postponed so they could stay in washington and work on the bailout project. that made him look and l unleaderly and did not seem to be able to handle multiple problems at once. for me, and i think this will be important this particular year, our candidates, office of problems. no one doubts obama can relate to the people, that he is...
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of doing obvious governor romney had it was quite obvious it's been four years since he met senator john mccain in a similar scenario to this one governor romney on the other hand participated in almost twenty debates in the process of winning the republican party's presidential nomination i think that basic fact recent practice really played to governor romney's strength that last night you know david it's interesting if obama can't defend his you know his time in office who can because he didn't do a very good job of it. no he didn't but he is at least in office he's the incumbent and maybe being the incumbent made him slack off a little bit he was you know if he was feeling the pressures of the job perhaps you know he's got a lot on his mind maybe more than somebody who's running against him he's got all the foreign policy issues that he has to keep track of and i thought the other difference between his his performance last night and previous times i've seen him was that he was up against an alpha male he was an applicant's the career politician somebody who's got the wank business t
of doing obvious governor romney had it was quite obvious it's been four years since he met senator john mccain in a similar scenario to this one governor romney on the other hand participated in almost twenty debates in the process of winning the republican party's presidential nomination i think that basic fact recent practice really played to governor romney's strength that last night you know david it's interesting if obama can't defend his you know his time in office who can because he...
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you get a sense of how relentlessly message to john mccain is. he used the term spread the wealth of around three times. another thing that strikes me is how obama is making eye contact with became the entire time he is talking. he looks right at them. there was a lot of discussion from the earlier debates in 2008 that mccain was having a hard time making eye contact. it came off as rude. another thing that jumps out on me is the contrast of the youthful obama and a much more senior mccain. obama actually was more the adult in my opinion in that relationship in that he was very calm and cool under fire. mccain, although that last debate was his best, he had moments where he was a little erratic and some of those earlier debates. >> you said, both president obama and governor romney share a sense of trepidation about going mano-a-mano on live television. how may it went up boxing them in? >> neither one of them has and enjoyment of debating. that is a weird word to use. i think the ones who are really good at it and the ones who really come across
you get a sense of how relentlessly message to john mccain is. he used the term spread the wealth of around three times. another thing that strikes me is how obama is making eye contact with became the entire time he is talking. he looks right at them. there was a lot of discussion from the earlier debates in 2008 that mccain was having a hard time making eye contact. it came off as rude. another thing that jumps out on me is the contrast of the youthful obama and a much more senior mccain....
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you get a sense of how relentlessly message to john mccain is. he used the term spread the wealth of around three times. another thing that strikes me is how obama is making eye contact with became the entire time he is talking. he looks right at them. there was a lot of discussion from the earlier debates in 2008 that mccain was having a hard time making eye contact. it came off as rude. another thing that jumps out on me is the contrast of the youthful obama and a much more senior mccain. obama actually was more the adult in my opinion in that relationship in that he was very calm and cool under fire. mccain, although that last debate was his best, he had moments where he was a little erratic and some of those earlier debates. >> you said, both president obama and governor romney share a sense of trepidation about going mano-a-mano on live television. how may it went up boxing them in? >> neither one of them has and enjoyment of debating. that is a weird word to use. i think the ones who are really good at it and the ones who really come across
you get a sense of how relentlessly message to john mccain is. he used the term spread the wealth of around three times. another thing that strikes me is how obama is making eye contact with became the entire time he is talking. he looks right at them. there was a lot of discussion from the earlier debates in 2008 that mccain was having a hard time making eye contact. it came off as rude. another thing that jumps out on me is the contrast of the youthful obama and a much more senior mccain....
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. >> romney has been preparing with senator rob portman who filled in as obama during john mccain's 2008 prep. the president practicing with jor kerry playing the role of romney. kerry is a good fit since the parallels between his '04 and current one is overwhelming. can romney get the post-debate bounce kerry did in '04 and take it one step further and turn it into something kerry couldn't do eight years ago. in '04 president bush had a six-point lead before the debates but kerry's performance boosted him tying the men for the final debate but it was senator kerry in december '04 and not president elect kerry. the national polls are close her today than eight years ago but the numbers in key battlegrounds today tell an obama victory story. democratic strategist steve el mendorf, kerry's deputy campaign manager in '04. how are you? >> good, how are you. >> tell me about why your guy won the debates and lost the election and what that says potentially about this dynamic and this race right now is this. >> i think any challenger has a benefit when they get up on the stage against the presi
. >> romney has been preparing with senator rob portman who filled in as obama during john mccain's 2008 prep. the president practicing with jor kerry playing the role of romney. kerry is a good fit since the parallels between his '04 and current one is overwhelming. can romney get the post-debate bounce kerry did in '04 and take it one step further and turn it into something kerry couldn't do eight years ago. in '04 president bush had a six-point lead before the debates but kerry's...
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you get a sense of how relentlessly message to john mccain is. he used the term spread the wealth of around three times. another thing that strikes me is how obama is making eye contact with became the entire time he is talking. he looks right at them. there was a lot of discussion from the earlier debates in 2008 that mccain was having a hard time making like act -- making eye contact. it came off as rude. another thing that jumps out on me is the contrast of the youthful obama and a much more senior mccain. obama actually was more the adult in my opinion in that relationship in that he was very calm and cool under fire. mccain, although that last debate was his best, he had moments where he was a little erratic and some of those earlier debates. >> you said, both president obama and governor romney share a sense of trepidation about going mano-a-mano on live television. how may it went up boxing them in? >> neither one of them has and enjoyment of debating. that is a weird word to use. i think the ones who are really good at it and the ones who
you get a sense of how relentlessly message to john mccain is. he used the term spread the wealth of around three times. another thing that strikes me is how obama is making eye contact with became the entire time he is talking. he looks right at them. there was a lot of discussion from the earlier debates in 2008 that mccain was having a hard time making like act -- making eye contact. it came off as rude. another thing that jumps out on me is the contrast of the youthful obama and a much more...
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he doesn't come from a border state like john mccain or george w. bush did. he has not done a great intense voter outreach with the latinos because he ran out of money after the primary. he -- let me just be absolutely truthful and give smu straight talk as john mccain would say. mitt romney dug himself into a hole with latinos during the primary. he said some things that are coming back to haunt him. he now needs to find a way to dig himself out of that hole. i think the only way he will do it is if he really continues the intense activity outreach with latinos, speaks to latinos a directly as he can and as often as he can between now and november 6th. he has to regain trust. >> all right. >> we have to leave it there. anna, of course, we'll be watching this, and we'll bring you back tomorrow. he will be talking to all the sing single ladies as well as other folks tonight. good to see you both. >> gracias. >> gracias. first presidential debate tonight. watch it here on cnn starting at 7:00 eastern. >> dozens of whales beach themselves. we'll find out what's
he doesn't come from a border state like john mccain or george w. bush did. he has not done a great intense voter outreach with the latinos because he ran out of money after the primary. he -- let me just be absolutely truthful and give smu straight talk as john mccain would say. mitt romney dug himself into a hole with latinos during the primary. he said some things that are coming back to haunt him. he now needs to find a way to dig himself out of that hole. i think the only way he will do it...
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. >> understand something about john mccain. his political advisers day aft day had to take him and almost throw him agnst the wall and him nse a say, senator, you have to let people know you served, you have to talk about what you did. he wouldn't -- he didn't want to do it. wouldn't do it. now, i'm running against a woman who, i mean, my god, that's all she talks about. our true heroes, the men and women who served us, it's the last thing in the world they talk about. >> you know, i don't even get -- i've never seen such bad tte in my life. this wan lost her legs in the service of our country in aty omupthe tmoer campaign, i don't know what the new rules are. your thoughts? >> this is one of the reasons he's behind in polls and republicanare privately conceding that he will probably lose this race. he has gotten a bit of a ey $00tos teown to him by the . he's going to be able to run some ads until election day. duckworth has ads out now that she her ride a bike and talk about the fact she'll go to washington and very much figh
. >> understand something about john mccain. his political advisers day aft day had to take him and almost throw him agnst the wall and him nse a say, senator, you have to let people know you served, you have to talk about what you did. he wouldn't -- he didn't want to do it. wouldn't do it. now, i'm running against a woman who, i mean, my god, that's all she talks about. our true heroes, the men and women who served us, it's the last thing in the world they talk about. >> you know,...
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. >> obama is more competent person than john mccain. romney and obama are about equal. it is about people who stand behind the candidates. people were already seated behind a podium when a staffer highlighted here came on stage and got some white people to move out. >> if you look at a candidate he has a bunch of people behind him half bb men half will be women. >> a certain number will be of a certain race. the camera will see minorities behind obama. >> there will be a percentage of blacks percentage of hispanics a percentage of asians. >> i assumed it went out that way. >> that's why you are sitting where i am sitting and i am sitting where i am sitting. >> people have to be cynical about babies. >> kids are a good attraction. i always like to use kids. i am always worried they are going to pick up the baby and drop it. >> so much superficiality. for all of the dirtiness and politics there is goodness. that's next. introducing the entirely new lexus es. and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. to meet the needs of my growing business. but how
. >> obama is more competent person than john mccain. romney and obama are about equal. it is about people who stand behind the candidates. people were already seated behind a podium when a staffer highlighted here came on stage and got some white people to move out. >> if you look at a candidate he has a bunch of people behind him half bb men half will be women. >> a certain number will be of a certain race. the camera will see minorities behind obama. >> there will be...
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i wrote it with a great confidence that he was going to win and with the bold prediction that john mccain could not win the presidency. a great american but allows a republican and a terrible senator. and i was sadly correct. not only was he a terrible candid in the middle of the crisis, probably even the best gadgets could not have survived. a financial crisis with an incumbent president that was been wrongly at the seat of george bush in the republican party when it goes back to democratic house important -- but nevertheless i wrote in that book that romney would make a great presidential nominee. i didn't know who the nominee would be. it's not a book about romney. i was proven remarkably impressionable by the 2007 book. the dean of the columbia school of journalism. the new yorkers national political reporter and always the go to guy for national political stories. the profile the in 2005 for the new yorker. it was a very nice piece. he told his liberal democratic leaders, the most influential conservative you ever heard of. okay. [laughter] that's okay, i guess. i don't really speak
i wrote it with a great confidence that he was going to win and with the bold prediction that john mccain could not win the presidency. a great american but allows a republican and a terrible senator. and i was sadly correct. not only was he a terrible candid in the middle of the crisis, probably even the best gadgets could not have survived. a financial crisis with an incumbent president that was been wrongly at the seat of george bush in the republican party when it goes back to democratic...
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john mccain beat george bush here by 20 minutes in that prime rare re. bush retooled his message and barely won new hampshire by talking about the debt and the deficit. gregg: kevin in 2010 the last election there, if i understand it, if i recall correctly i think republicans won almost every office, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen that way this year, the pendulum could begin to swing in the other direction? >> that's correct. we had the largest republican sweep for a legislature of any state in the country in 2010. four years earlier in 2006 the democrats took control of the legislature at all levels of power for the first time since the civil war. we are used to this pendulum swinging back and forth. 2000 goes to george w. bush narrowly. 2004 john kerry wins the state narrowly. it was an anomaly when barack obama won in swaeut by almost ten points against john mccain but it was because he talked about taxes and the deaf sits. i go back to these eupbzs. he not only said i won't raise taxes for people earning $250,000 he said aoeult cut the de
john mccain beat george bush here by 20 minutes in that prime rare re. bush retooled his message and barely won new hampshire by talking about the debt and the deficit. gregg: kevin in 2010 the last election there, if i understand it, if i recall correctly i think republicans won almost every office, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen that way this year, the pendulum could begin to swing in the other direction? >> that's correct. we had the largest republican sweep for a...
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last time when john mccain was running in '08, you know what, people thought the press was more unfair to mccain and they do think they're unfair to mitt romney. this is ongoing lament coming from conservatives about the coverage. but again i just want to point out. when you ask about fairness, is the press fair to romney, fair to obama, according to pew the american people are basically yeah, they're fair to both of them. bill: mary katherine, one moment. because when these fox polling numbers came out yesterday. this is what popped on to our desk "time" magazine. mitt romney on the cover. what is it about? mormonism, faith. yet again there it is. what republicans argue is this, name a story that put mitt romney in a positive light? >> well, yeah, you have seen some, i guess you could say "newsweek" did the anti-obama obama cover. i will give them credit for that. about the "time" magazine story you ask the press secretary at the white house who used to work for time. this is perennial problem. the press at mids it. jake tapper said to laura ingraham said i think the press was largely
last time when john mccain was running in '08, you know what, people thought the press was more unfair to mccain and they do think they're unfair to mitt romney. this is ongoing lament coming from conservatives about the coverage. but again i just want to point out. when you ask about fairness, is the press fair to romney, fair to obama, according to pew the american people are basically yeah, they're fair to both of them. bill: mary katherine, one moment. because when these fox polling numbers...
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bush and john mccain. he coached mitt romney during the primaries. >> the object is to capture the imagination of both the audience and the press to make sure your message gets covered. one way to do that is to have a clever line >> schieffer: no one could deliver a line like ronald reagan. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. (laughing) >> schieffer: with those words reagan turned concern that he had gotten old and doddy on its head. challenger walter mondale said later when i heard that, i knew i had lost. what would you consider successful debate? >> the things that matter the most to the voters, to hell with the candidates and to hell with the moderators and to hell with the handlers and to hell with the pundits, but the things that voters care the most about have been discussed and have been discussed in a way that they can now understand what the differences are. that's what these debates are really al
bush and john mccain. he coached mitt romney during the primaries. >> the object is to capture the imagination of both the audience and the press to make sure your message gets covered. one way to do that is to have a clever line >> schieffer: no one could deliver a line like ronald reagan. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. (laughing) >> schieffer: with those words...
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when the economy imploded, john mccain's advisors say his campaign collapsed along with it and never recovered. historians say in order for an october surprise to have a real 11th hour impact, it has to feed into a narrative that already exists, whether it's carter's ineffectiveness or questions about mccain's credentials on the economy. >> it's not so much that suddenly eureka, this is so surprising, so amazing, but rather, people nod yes, this is where we thought things were going. >> reporter: it's possible we may have already seen this election year's october surprise. maybe it was how the candidates reacted to tragedy in libya and the broader unrest in the mideast or maybe it was mitt romney's now infamous 47% remarks, or perhaps one or both of the campaigns is holding damaging information about the other, or there will be an unforeseen event on the world stage. it's hard to say, since if we could guess, it would not be called an october surprise. dana bash, cn washington. >> we shall see what happens. >>> he was by far -- he was by the side of the iranian president during his v
when the economy imploded, john mccain's advisors say his campaign collapsed along with it and never recovered. historians say in order for an october surprise to have a real 11th hour impact, it has to feed into a narrative that already exists, whether it's carter's ineffectiveness or questions about mccain's credentials on the economy. >> it's not so much that suddenly eureka, this is so surprising, so amazing, but rather, people nod yes, this is where we thought things were going....
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number one is look, john mccain won white women by seven points. that is not enough to win, given what republicans have to win white voters by overall. but, when you look at white women voters, there are groups that are more likely to vote republican and those include white women without college degrees, women who are married and then particularly women who have children. the difference is between white women who are married and white women who are single, whether it be you know, they are not married and they are widowed or they are divorced. those voters, those groups overwhelmingly go for obama so if ron is right and the president is making some gains with non-college-educated white women, that is problematic for our side. now i have not seen as much of a shift as you have noted. >> okay, let's open it up. we will go over here. yes, john. >> are we doing mike's? >> people say the choice doesn't matter that they are next up given what happened last night. it is important, the debate. is it going to mean that you know people are going to based on w
number one is look, john mccain won white women by seven points. that is not enough to win, given what republicans have to win white voters by overall. but, when you look at white women voters, there are groups that are more likely to vote republican and those include white women without college degrees, women who are married and then particularly women who have children. the difference is between white women who are married and white women who are single, whether it be you know, they are not...